R14 demo SDK

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On 08/08/2012 at 09:02, xxxxxxxx wrote:

I know what you mean. But at least if you want to upgrade to Mountain Lion you can get it for free. That's what, $20 saved, for what it's worth.

I think Apple machines are gorgeous (just splashed out on a new iMac) but their web site(s) are appalling. I wanted to download XCode 4.4 but you can't get that direct from the Apple dev site, it takes you to the Mac App Store. OK, fair enough, but when you try to download XCode it redirects you again to of all things iTunes. There, it turns out that your $99 Apple dev ID is not good enough. You need an Apple ID. Well, I had one so I tried it and iTunes flatly refused to accept it, despite letting me download anything else with tat ID - but not XCode. In the end I had to create a brand-new Apple ID just to get it. The whole thing is just a mess.

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On 08/08/2012 at 09:16, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Howdy,

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

...According to a few posts I've found in Apple's forum, the download wouldn't work without the $99 membership (access denied...)...

Yes, I saw that thread, too, and when I clicked on the direct link that was posted, I also got the "Access Denied" alert, even after paying the $99 membership.

But then I found the old bookmark (in Safari on my old G4 iMac still running Tiger) and Voilà!, there it was.

Is it possible that my paid membership is not in the system yet, but the Xcode 4.2 for Snow Leopard is still available for free memberships through the old bookmark?

Adios,
Cactus Dan

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On 08/08/2012 at 09:28, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

I know what you mean. But at least if you want to upgrade to Mountain Lion you can get it for free. That's what, $20 saved, for what it's worth.

I think Apple machines are gorgeous (just splashed out on a new iMac) but their web site(s) are appalling. I wanted to download XCode 4.4 but you can't get that direct from the Apple dev site, it takes you to the Mac App Store. OK, fair enough, but when you try to download XCode it redirects you again to of all things iTunes. There, it turns out that your $99 Apple dev ID is not good enough. You need an Apple ID. Well, I had one so I tried it and iTunes flatly refused to accept it, despite letting me download anything else with tat ID - but not XCode. In the end I had to create a brand-new Apple ID just to get it. The whole thing is just a mess.

Yep.  Had the same thing. I've had an Apple ID for almost a decade but when I purchased my latest Mac Dev Program enrollment, they said that I had to get a new Apple ID (they told me directly because there would be some conflict for some reason that I can't remember).  Basically, my enrollment was withdrawn and refunded until I created a new Apple ID and then it was finalized.  As you say, a mess. :D

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On 09/08/2012 at 05:43, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Howdy,

OK, today it appears in the list, although I've already downloaded it from the old bookmark.

But, I'm having problems installing it on my core duo macbook pro (32bit) running Snow Leopard 10.6.8. The installation fails. Is Xcode 4.2 only for 64bit?

Adios,
Cactus Dan

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On 09/08/2012 at 06:18, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

Howdy,
OK, today it appears in the list, although I've already downloaded it from the old bookmark.
But, I'm having problems installing it on my core duo macbook pro (32bit) running Snow Leopard 10.6.8. The installation fails. Is Xcode 4.2 only for 64bit?
Adios,
Cactus Dan

I've never owned a 32 bit-only Intel Mac and therefore can't check. My 4.2 version (build 4c199) contains 32 and 64 bit code though - and you're able to start it in 32 & 64 bit mode by checking the run mode in the info box of the Finder.

Best regards,

Wilfried

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On 09/08/2012 at 06:34, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Howdy,

Unfortunately, I purchased 2 of the first generation Macs (MacbookPro and iMac) that were 32bit only intel Core Duo processors. Now I'm stuck with them because they're not upgradable. :cry:

I also got stuck with Windows 7 32bit on my Core 2 Quad PC (don't know why I didn't check that when I bought it), although I could possibly upgrade that to 64bit version of Windows 7 because the machine is certainly 64bit capable.

Adios,
Cactus Dan

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On 10/08/2012 at 12:49, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Howdy,

I'm re-downloading 4.2 right now from the original page I posted, thinking that maybe there was an issue with the one from the old bookmark, but I noticed that Xcode 4.0 for Snow Leopard is also available from that original page. So, I'm wondering if I have to upgrade the 3.2 version to Xcode 4.0 first before I can upgrade to 4.2?

Adios,
Cactus Dan

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On 11/08/2012 at 05:56, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Yes, I think that you need to install Xcode 4.0 and upgrade it to 4.2.  But you should be able to get the full install of 4.2, I think and forego the upgrade step.

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On 12/08/2012 at 16:47, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Howdy,

Well, I finally got Xcode 4.2 installed on the Macbook Pro, but only after wiping it clean, reformatting it to a single partition (had windows XP on the second), reinstalling Snow Leopard 10.6.0, upgrading it to 10.6.8, installing Xcode 4.0 first and finally upgrading that to Xcode 4.2.

Now I have to relearn how to use Xcode, because it's changed dramatically, before I can start compiling the cinema4d sdk project. What a pain! 

So what am I going to have to do when I get to the Windows version? What are the specs to compile that version?

Adios,
Cactus Dan

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On 12/08/2012 at 21:41, xxxxxxxx wrote:

This is why I brought up the subject of QT in another thread.
The stuff you mac people need to go through just to compile the SDK looks very ugly to me.

From what I've read in the forums. You'll just need to use VS2010 to compile R14 on Windows.
Not sure about any XP, Vista, Win7 requirements. They usually don't matter.
I've complied the R14 demo with VS2010 running Vista myself. And it went perfectly with no problems.
The dependencies are already set up. So all I had to do was set the debug paths to the proper 32&64 bit versions of the C4D .exe's and that's all there was too it.

One thing that did catch me a little off guard in the R14 SDK is that they removed the folders.
I'm somewhat of a neat freak. So I thought it was nice having the various types of plugins organized in folders by type.

-ScottA

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On 12/08/2012 at 23:46, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

Howdy,
Well, I finally got Xcode 4.2 installed on the Macbook Pro, but only after wiping it clean, reformatting it to a single partition (had windows XP on the second), reinstalling Snow Leopard 10.6.0, upgrading it to 10.6.8, installing Xcode 4.0 first and finally upgrading that to Xcode 4.2. 
Now I have to relearn how to use Xcode, because it's changed dramatically, before I can start compiling the cinema4d sdk project. What a pain! 
So what am I going to have to do when I get to the Windows version? What are the specs to compile that version?
Adios,
Cactus Dan

Being curious: Could it be, that you've used a Windows tool/app that modifies the hd (partition structure)? A friend of mine had an installation of OS X & Win too (2 partitions on one hd), where he couldn't apply the MLion installation (the installer refused). Turned out, that he cloned the hd on a bigger hd and used Windows tools to enlarge the Windows partition. The mismatch between the partition informations stored on OS X and Windows then caused the MLion installer to stop the installation.

Can't thing of other reasons why you should have to wipe the whole hd and install Xcode 4 before; my 10.6.8 partition that I've set up recently (as my old hd broke) contains only XCode 3.2.6 and XCode 4.2 (I didn't want to install XCode 4.0, as I knew it was very crash-prone).

Regarding VS: Install VS 2010 and the latest patches (and its service pack).

Best regards,

Wilfried

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On 12/08/2012 at 23:49, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

This is why I brought up the subject of QT in another thread.
The stuff you mac people need to go through just to compile the SDK looks very ugly to me.

[...]

Maybe you could enlighten the rest of us to follow your logic. Does QT contain pixie dust to resolve installation problems of a compiler or do you think you need no C++ compiler at all when using QT?

Best regards,

Wilfried

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On 13/08/2012 at 00:25, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

This is why I brought up the subject of QT in another thread.
The stuff you mac people need to go through just to compile the SDK looks very ugly to me.

It really isn't, in fact I'd say it's easier to set up on the Mac as it is on the PC. I don't like XCode but I can't deny that when setting up a new project I prefer doing it on the Mac.

One thing that did catch me a little off guard in the R14 SDK is that they removed the folders.
I'm somewhat of a neat freak. So I thought it was nice having the various types of plugins organized in folders by type.

Not in the version I'm using they didn't. Still divided into animation, datatype, object, etc. etc.

Steve

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On 13/08/2012 at 05:38, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Howdy,

Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

...Being curious: Could it be, that you've used a Windows tool/app that modifies the hd (partition structure)? A friend of mine had an installation of OS X & Win too (2 partitions on one hd), where he couldn't apply the MLion installation (the installer refused). Turned out, that he cloned the hd on a bigger hd and used Windows tools to enlarge the Windows partition. The mismatch between the partition informations stored on OS X and Windows then caused the MLion installer to stop the installation.

Can't thing of other reasons why you should have to wipe the whole hd and install Xcode 4 before; my 10.6.8 partition that I've set up recently (as my old hd broke) contains only XCode 3.2.6 and XCode 4.2 (I didn't want to install XCode 4.0, as I knew it was very crash-prone)...

To be honest, I have no idea. I bought the MacBook pro in 2006 (first generation intel Macs) and set up the Windows XP partition with the beta of Boot Camp that came with it. The Mac OS version was Tiger originally, then later I upgraded that to Leopard and then Snow Leopard. I haven't actually used the Windows on that machine very much, because I also have a PC. The initial idea was to have both Mac OS and Windows on the laptop when I travel, but I haven't traveled anywhere since 2006.

Adios,
Cactus Dan

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On 15/08/2012 at 09:04, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Howdy,

OK, I've successfully compiled the R14 SDK, but now that Xcode 4.2 is so much different to Xcode 3, what are the exact steps to creating my own plugin projects (from a 32bit machine)?

I gave it a try myself from the steps in the really old Xcode Migration document, but as soon as I renamed the cinema4dsdk to the same name as my plugin, I lost the 64bit option:

How do I get that back after renaming? 
And why won't it change the name in the menu selection?
Also, why won't it allow me to change the name in the file view column?

Can someone provide a quick start guide?

Adios,
Cactus Dan

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On 15/08/2012 at 13:14, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Howdy,

OK, never mind. I think I've figured out how to do it.

If I don't change the name of the copied cinema4dsdk project in the Finder, but wait until I load it into Xcode and change the name there, everything seems to work OK.

Adios,
Cactus Dan