C4D serial digits not unique?



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    On 19/03/2010 at 08:38, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    This is a fascinating discussion because it raises a fundamental point: why doesn't every user of C4D, or any other software for that matter, use a pirated version? To put it another way, why are so many users basically honest?

    Legitimate users of C4D (which I'm just using as an example here - substitute any other software of choice) actually choose to pay for a license. Why do they do this? There are several possible reasons:

    * fear of being found out and sued by Maxon (or more likely, named and shamed by legit users)
    * concern that pirated versions may be incomplete or virus-infested
    * desire to have the support, updates, etc. which you get with a valid license (very important IMO)
    * the fact that someone using a pirated copy is less likely to get paid work
    * recognition that if everyone used a pirate copy, soon there'd be no more Maxon and no more C4D
    * and a general awareness that if someone produces something you want, you have to pay for it, unless they are giving it away

    Someone who uses a cracked copy must ignore one or more of these points. It seems to me that such a person, having made the decision to use a knockoff copy is very unlikely to pay for a plugin and therefore will do whatever is necessary to obtain a cracked version. BUT such people will only make up a proportion of the userbase, and as we all know, they are most likely to be kids with huge collections of pirated software none of which they actually know how to use! How often have you seen someone in a forum say that they have Max, Maya, C4D, Softimage, and so on - did they really pay for those? Such people are not a competitive threat for the most part.

    Since software protection cannot be made crackproof, we should leave it to Maxon to make C4D as pirate-safe as they feel necessary or possible, and stop worrying about it.



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    On 19/03/2010 at 12:17, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

    hi,
    just found that a c4d r11.5 keygen is on, so now anyone got solution for securing our work.

    Is there a way to make activation via the net like with adobe, or maybe is it possible to make hardware id and then the client send it to me so i will send him serial?

    please, any advice.
    I am working on big plugin package or maybe i will wait till R12 is on.

    thanks.

    Im only posting because you mentioned a keygen for R11.5. Curiously I googled your username (good ol google) and find that you turn up in quite a few warez forums. Coincidence? Maybe, but if not I really think you are in the wrong place.



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    On 20/03/2010 at 12:21, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

    * fear of being found out and sued by Maxon (or more likely, named and shamed by legit users)
    * concern that pirated versions may be incomplete or virus-infested
    * desire to have the support, updates, etc. which you get with a valid license (very important IMO)
    * the fact that someone using a pirated copy is less likely to get paid work
    * recognition that if everyone used a pirate copy, soon there'd be no more Maxon and no more C4D
    * and a general awareness that if someone produces something you want, you have to pay for it, unless they are giving it away

    IMO the last point in your list points to what I would call the fundamental reasons to buy software:
    * Treat others like you would like to be treated.
    * Appreciate others work and show it.
    * Good Karma. Pure conscience.

    Kabe



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    On 28/04/2010 at 16:26, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    A one, a two, a one two three four five... The beat goes on!

    Cheers
    Lennart



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    On 29/04/2010 at 04:27, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Believe it or not, I had someone email me a few days about my commercial plugin, and he said that he didn't have 'original C4D 11.5 software' (that's a quote) but could he still get my plugin.

    I replied that I wasn't sure what he meant by not having original software, but that I couldn't supply a license for a knockoff version of Cinema. I haven't had a reply (or a purchase)!



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    On 29/04/2010 at 04:35, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    I'm not sure about this. Maxon stated specifically that this shouldn't be our concern.

    Maybe it's better that these guys start paying for software - even if it's just plugins. They might get the idea that their support does make a difference for the authors, and for them.

    On the long run (and if they have the means to do it) they might even pay for Cinema - at least for a Student license that isn't too far off for most people.

    Kabe



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    On 29/04/2010 at 05:37, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Hey Steve,

    I got the very same inquiry. I highly assume it was the same person. Quite unbelievable. I also tols him that only original software is acceptable. I don´t want to help spreading my tools in the warez community. Also my italian reseller had some orders with the 12345 serial number ending, also rejected them. That´s the only way to handle this imo.



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    On 03/05/2010 at 15:49, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    I know it's not directly a Maxon issue, but right now it's about
    50% of the R11 users that runs "12345"…….

    Cheers
    Lennart



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    On 04/05/2010 at 04:24, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    I know, it gets more and more. Each day at least two of them want to buy my stuff, too. And a surprisingly big amount of these people even register with their company email address. How stupid can they get?
    Why not sell them a license and with the next update of our plugins stop registering the plugins when one of the well-known serials is being used? Wouldn't that be legitimate :D 
    Cheers,
    Jack



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    On 04/05/2010 at 04:51, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    or create a function that formats the harddisk if the serial is found (if that works from a cinemaplugin)
    but i guess that could make trouble, too.



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    On 05/05/2010 at 06:57, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

    or create a function that formats the harddisk if the serial is found (if that works from a cinemaplugin)but i guess that could make trouble, too.

    Don't even think of that.

    This is straight against the law and you will be punished heavily for such a thing.



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    On 05/05/2010 at 07:09, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Get criminal to fight criminals indeed won´t work. :)



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    On 05/05/2010 at 09:19, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    I agree. Damaging their machine is definitely not a solution.
    But still, how about blocking known crack serials with a later update of the plugin?



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    On 06/05/2010 at 11:08, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    just to clarify, i was joking :)



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    On 07/05/2010 at 00:45, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Originally posted by xxxxxxxx

    But still, how about blocking known crack serials with a later update of the plugin?

    Nobody can force you to sell an upgrade.



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    On 11/05/2010 at 22:27, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Hello Guys,
    i have recived this mail :

    "I am new to Cinema 4D. I saw your SpeedMud plugin and its tutorials, Its very useful and helpful to make objects faster and easier.

    I am using Cinema 4D 11.5 in Mac OS X and sorry... now I don't have the original serial of C4D. Can I buy SpeedMud plugin for my personal use. "

    what i have to do in your opinion ?

    All the best
    Franz



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    On 12/05/2010 at 01:13, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    don´t sell it. Otherwise you are willingly supporting illegal actions.



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    On 12/05/2010 at 04:20, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    The order form of my online shop and also the form for requesting a new plugin serial due to a c4d upgrade doesn't accept illegal serial numbers any more, so I'm not bothered with this topic any more. The database of the illegal digits is updated automatically: there is periodical check of all c4d digits in my purchase database. If a serial number occurs more than three times, it will be transfered to the black list.



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    On 13/05/2010 at 18:52, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    That sounds like a good idea.
    I'll implement that for my license software, too.



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    On 18/05/2010 at 05:17, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    Hi,

    not exactly related to serials, but :

    I'm actually thinking about beefing up my protection a little bit, while not putting too much effort in it.
    Is there a function in the API to compute file checksums like crc or md5 ?


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