MSG_TRANSLATE_POINTS insufficient/unsent?



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    On 06/05/2006 at 07:26, xxxxxxxx wrote:

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    Cinema 4D Version:   9.5 
    Platform:   Windows  ;   
    Language(s) :     C++  ;

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    Hello;

    I've been stumbling over a problem recently. I have some plugin tags which refer to points of a point object (the base object of those tags). To keep this reference up to date when the point object changes, I use a message of type MSG_TRANSLATE_POINTS. That works fine for added, removed, merged, or interpolated points.

    However, there are some transformations which are not yet handled correctly (and perhaps more which I just haven't tried yet).

    -- When I subdivide an object, only MSG_POINTS_CHANGED messages arrive. (okay, I can live with that... but it still seems weird since I would expect an interpolation map in a MSG_TRANSLATE_POINTS message instead.)

    -- Mirroring a polygon object (done by setting -1 in the scaling) result in the same message. I am not able to extract the nature of the change from this message (at least not in a feasible way). However, my tags need updating to reflect the mirroring. Do I really need to include "mirror" buttons in my tags which implement a manual change, or is there a way to trigger an automatic reaction?

    -- And the worst problem: Merging two polygon objects does not work properly. The merged copy shows only the tags from the first merged original; all my tags from the second object are forgotten, even when the tags are defined as TAG_MULTIPLE. The copied tags don't get the proper messages about adding the points from the second object; links in the tags are not redirected (well, I didn't really expect that to work...). As a result, the point references for the second polygon object are lost, and there is no way to retrieve them after the merge.

    Thing is, I know that there is a trick, at least with the merge function! If I define two polygon objects and give each a distinct point weight tag, the merged object has both weight tags, and both work properly although the point indices must have changed internally! How do they achieve this? What do I miss?

    Or maybe I'm on the wrong track and the Merge and Subdivide functions (and maybe more) do not send MSG_TRANSLATE_POINTS at all, but perform the merge on some selected, C4D-internal tags themselves? In that case, I would need to write my own merge function, which I shy away from for obvious reasons.

    Please, can anyone give me a hint how to handle these problems?

    -- Cairyn --



  • THE POST BELOW IS MORE THAN 5 YEARS OLD. RELATED SUPPORT INFORMATION MIGHT BE OUTDATED OR DEPRECATED

    On 07/05/2006 at 00:52, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    The MSG_TRANSLATE_xxx are only sent from modeling functions that use the R9 modeling library, not all plugins or all modeling functions use this. Some of the older CINEMA modeling functions handle updating tags internally so will update only tags they were written to update and send no messages of much use.



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    On 07/05/2006 at 08:20, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    OK, thanks... I will need to create an additional command plugin then, which allows copying tag data after merging the objects. (I guess there are no hooks in the older functions which would allow me to handle tags myself...)



  • THE POST BELOW IS MORE THAN 5 YEARS OLD. RELATED SUPPORT INFORMATION MIGHT BE OUTDATED OR DEPRECATED

    On 07/05/2006 at 09:44, xxxxxxxx wrote:

    No Sorry, the older modeling tools aren't too friendly.


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